Over the years, we have gone to great barbecue. This time great barbecue has come to us in the form of Lewis Barbecue.
John Lewis, the Texas-born pitmaster who spoke with us recently, will be bringing Central Texas BBQ to Charleston when he opens Lewis Barbecue in “late 2015.” Indeed, we rode by what will be his new place on the corner of Nassau and Isabella St. recently, and it looks pretty much the same as it does in the Google StreetMap view from January 2015.
Fortunately, Charleston and we did not have to wait until late 2015 to enjoy Lewis’s BBQ.
Starting June 6th running through Sept. 5, Lewis and Revelry Brewing are teaming up for a Summer Barbecue Series. Revelry Brewing is on Conroy St. just a couple of blocks over from Lewis’s eventual home. Together, they brewed a new beer, named “Lean or Fat,” to complement Lewis’s barbecue.
We missed the opening Saturday, but we were able to go to the second event in the series.
We arrived around 11:20 am for the 12 pm opening. At this point, we were about the fifth group in line, about 15 people back.
The Revelry crew was busy getting set up, and Lewis and his crew were busy as well. They were packing brisket and pork in butcher’s paper to put in the warmer, and pulling links off the huge pit he brought over for this event.
The waitress at Revelry worked her way down the line and took our card to start a tab. (Turns out she graduated from Fort Dorchester, where I have taught since 1999, though she was not one of my students.)
We each got a Lean or Fat to cool us down on what was already a hot summer day. It hit the spot.
(Side note: I know Lewis is from Texas, where heat is no stranger, but I do wonder how Charleston’s humidity is welcoming him.)
Shortly after noon, Lewis was open for business. He took his station at the counter and greeted each customer. He would be handling all of the meat orders.
As each new group stepped up, he cut each person a small chunk of brisket to try and then took their orders. He then sliced, chopped, or pulled whatever the order required, weighed it on a scale, called out the weight to the cashier to his left.
Today, giant beef ribs were a special addition to the menu. We decided we wanted to try, well… everything, at least all the meats. We didn’t order any of the sandwiches.
Next was our turn. We stepped up and tasted the gift of brisket chunk. Extraordinary.
We then ordered:
- giant beef rib ($22/lb)
- half pound pork ($13/lb)
- half pound brisket (two slices; $20/lb)
- Texas Hot Guts (sausage @ $4/link)
- a side of Buttermilk Bacon Potato Salad ($2)
- a side of the Lemon Vinaigrette Slaw ($2)
Lewis pulled out two huge ribs, cut one from the other, and offered me my choice of the two. I took the “smaller” of the two and even that turned out to be $28. It was fantastic (more about that later), but $28 for one rib is a lot, needless to say. I don’t know that I would get another one next time, but I am pleased to have tried it today.
He placed the rib on a black plastic tray covered with a reddish butcher paper and continued with the order: slicing the hot guts into about 4 pieces, and pulling and weighing ½ lb of pork from the warmer. He suggested adding some pickled onions for the pork (and we’re glad he did) and handed the tray to his assistant who completed the order with the requested sides.
Lewis quickly added a couple of slices of white bread (more from Pepperidge Farm type loaf than a loaf of Sunbeam).
We stepped down one spot further and the cashier took our name. Since we already had begun running the tab for the beer, our order was simply added to that. Very nice. (In the end, our total bill, food, and drink, was $81. We left $19 for a tip.)
We took our tray yet another step down the line, where we filled little cups with sauce, added a spoonful of what appeared to be dill pickles chunks, grabbed a few utensils and napkins.
We then made our way back down and around the line, to the envy of all the gawkers watching as we passed, to find an open spot at one of the many picnic tables Revelry had provided.
We refreshed our beers and added a couple of bottles of water and sat to enjoy our meal.
The extraordinary is obvious from the first bite in any great food you might sample. So it was here. The barbecue was simply fantastic.
It’s funny. The word “barbecue” still feels somehow wrong here. Ask any born-and-raised South Carolinian, and he will tell you barbecue is pork. That’s it. Other meats can be “barbecued,” but they cannot be “barbecue.”
Lewis may alter that vocabulary. He has stepped out of Central Texas, where “barbecue” must be a more encompassing term, and I suspect his arrival will change not only our perception but along with it, our lexicon.
Great food is great food, and it will always be appreciated no matter where it is served, but I would argue Lewis couldn’t have picked a better location in the state in which to begin to alter that perception. Charleston, interestingly enough, does not have a rich barbecue heritage. Couple that with the fact that it is arguably the most accepting of new food ideas of any place in the state, and you have a great recipe for this new ‘cue.
Anyway…back to our tray of….yes, barbecue.
I had to begin with the brisket.
In all honesty, brisket is new to me. I may have eaten it half a dozen times in my life that I am aware of, and most of those involved a crockpot. The first barbecued brisket I tried since we began this site was at Kelly’s BBQ in Summerville, not very long ago, so I have no expertise in the subject.
Of course, we claim no real expertise on even pork barbecue. We just share our honest opinions and experiences and invite you to share our journey.
The brisket was amazing. (There’s a reason why Lewis Barbecue would later earned a spot on our feature entitled “BBQ in Charleston, SC: The Definitive Guide.”)
“It had nice coloring to it. The fat that was on it, even though it was a nice big layer, was not….fatty. It added to the flavor of all the other meat,” Heather commented.
“It was a thick layer of fat, too,” I followed. “I mean it was, what would you say, a quarter to half-inch layer of fat? And the meat itself was probably 2 inches wide.”
Note that neither of us can stand soft, fatty tissue in our BBQ. It is very unpleasant, but this was something totally different. The fat layer was…necessary, and it added both flavor and moisture to the beef. Without it, the experience and depth of flavor would be lacking.
Something happens to the fat on the pit. It becomes rich…succulent…unctuous.
Unctuous is apparently a controversial culinary term. Outside of the food world, the term is definitely negative, meaning oily or greasy, as in the unctuous used car salesman who tries to “butter you up” but is just a greasy lowlife.
But in the culinary sense, to me anyway, unctuousness implies a certain smoothness born of dissolved fats and soft tissues that lend a certain richness to a dish. Not at all unpleasant; quite the opposite, actually.
So when I say the brisket, and especially the giant beef rib and, frankly, even the pulled pork was, in fact, unctuous, please know that is a wonderful thing.
“What did you think of the brisket? You don’t like beef…” I asked Heather, curious.
“I don’t like beef,” she confirmed. “Every time I’ve heard about brisket, and it’s ‘Oh, you can taste the beef in it…’ The part I don’t like about beef is tasting the…beefiness in it. I did not taste that it all. I tasted….it was like butter. It had beautiful coloring, it melted in your mouth, and there wasn’t any overpowering taste that I could say “Oh, I taste that beef.” It was good.”
“And did you eat the rib?”
“I did and it was phenomenal,” she said.
“I thought that one had a real beefiness to it,” I pointed out.
“I only had a small piece because you ate so much of it…” Heather complained.
And well she should have, as I was a bit overzealous in my enjoyment of the food.
The beef rib was huge. I have to say the texture and beefiness reminded me more of a delicious beef stew than the rub-covered pork ribs I am accustomed to. It was just so moist and tender.
“The beef rib was very tender — everything was very tender and juicy,” I noted.
“It was fantastic,” Heather agreed.
As for the sausage, the Texas Hot Guts, I really expected lots of spiciness. In this interview with Daniel Vaughn, BBQ editor for Texas Monthly, Lewis notes, “If you’re going to call it Texas hot guts, then you should actually make it hot.”
But the link we enjoyed was definitely not hot, but like all the other meats, it was fantastic.
“The sausage had a crisp exterior, juicy interior,” I commented. “It wasn’t spicy like wp
Heather agreed and offered this suggestion:
“The sausage needs to be served on a big huge roll with the onions and some mustard. Just that alone would be a meal in and of itself.”
As mentioned above, Lewis does offer sandwiches (of which Heather’s is not yet an option). The El Sancho has the pickled red onions and hot gut sausage Heather wanted, along with either chopped brisket or pulled pork….make it “loco” with all three meats.
If I remember correctly, the sandwiches were in the $9-$10 range, and definitely worth it based on size alone.
Finally, the pulled pork. Now we’re back in familiar territory.
I will say, this is an exceptional pork barbecue. It was phenomenal. It is simply the best pork we have tried in Charleston (though we have lots left to try) and without question in an elite tier of all BBQ in the state.
It is not a traditional SC BBQ, but that is not a bad thing. What it is is moist, flavorful pork, rich in flavor. And while the beef products were fantastic, without question, we prefer pork.
“The pork was moist,” Heather said. “You could just taste the smoke flavor in it. You did not have to have any BBQ sauce. We don’t care about the BBQ sauce in this instance.”
Indeed, the sauce was irrelevant for any of the barbecue we enjoyed.
“We had lots of BBQ sauces to choose from and other than tasting each BBQ sauce, I don’t think we used a bit of it,” I pointed out.
All of the sauces, and there were several to choose from, tasted great on their own. We did sample each of them, but honestly, we didn’t use a drop on any of the meats. Simply wasn’t needed.
As for the sides, here are our thoughts:
The potato salad “was just like Jim’s grandmother’s; not too much mayonnaise….perfect,” Heather said.
“Yea, it was really good, but I didn’t get many bites of it….” I complained. Heather smiled.
“The coleslaw, you felt had too much mayonnaise in it, but I didn’t think so. It wasn’t in like some mayonnaise sauce,” I continued.
“So I’m not mayonnaise coleslaw person,” she noted. Bottom line, neither of us care for mayo that much.
“It wasn’t sweet, it wasn’t sour, it wasn’t overpowering in any kind of way. It was crisp and shredded, or thinly sliced, not chopped,” she continued. “But as for the lemon in the Lemon Vinaigrette Slaw – I didn’t taste any citrus in it, whatsoever.”
“I didn’t taste any citrus, either, but that’s not a bad thing,” I agreed. “I didn’t want it to taste like lemon. It was a nice complement to the other dishes I thought.”
We had two types of pickles on the tray: the red onion pickles Lewis suggested to go along with the pork and the dill chunks we took from the self-service area.
The dills were “definitely not a bread and butter. And it was a good palate cleanser, too, to the beef,” I said.
“I liked the pickled onions,” Heather said. “They were delicious. They were red…I don’t know how they were red. I don’t think they were red because they were red onions, but maybe they were.”
“They were spicy and vinegary, and they went great with the pork,” she finished.
“They went great with everything…again, cleansed the palate,” I agreed. “You had the unctuousness of the pork and the beef because it was so moist and..mmm…. just delicious. The pickles really helped to refresh your taste buds, cutting through the oils of the buttery meats.”
In the end, a new barbecue has landed on Charleston’s shores and while it was born of a different tradition, there is no denying it is already among the best the state has to offer.
ADDENDUM: I spoke with John who was very generous and grateful, but he wanted to pass on the following information:
1) Wanted to let you know a little more info about the beef ribs. It’s pretty much something we can’t make any profit off. Much more of a novelty that excites people, and why I only cook small numbers of them as compared to brisket. Kind of just something to get folks in the door. I’m paying 6.50 a pound raw for these ribs, and by the time they are finished cooking they have lost about 2/3 in weight. So that 6.50 turns into about 19.50 per lb. Add in the cost of firewood, seasoning, and labor and 22 bucks a pound doesn’t even get close to where I should be on the price. Here’s a little more info from Daniel Vaughn. https://www.tmbbq.com/you-may-love-beef-short-ribs-but-pitmasters-dont/
2) Also, no mayo in the slaw. The base is lemon juice and sour cream. Again glad to have you guys over, and happy to hear that our sausage isn’t too spicy for South Carolina!!
We’ve published a number of great recipes on destination-bbq, and we’ve published even more sauce (and rub) recipes in the SCBBQ Recipes: Going Whole Hog Cookbook, including some of John’s.
If you are a fan of John Lewis and Lewis Barbecue, check it out.
Read more about the cookbook here and here is a listing of some of Lewis’s recipes in the book:
- John Lewis BBQ-Style Brisket Dry Rub Recipe
- John Lewis’s Hatch Green Chile Corn Pudding Recipe
- Lewis Barbecue-Style Cole Slaw Recipe
- John Lewis’s Buttermilk Potato Salad Recipe
- John Lewis’s Hatch Chile-Cheese Biscuits Recipe
Monday 13th of July 2020
Just had the BBQ and it was amazing.
Thursday 16th of July 2020
Definitely top of the line stuff at Lewis BBQ.